To show or not to show

Posted by Katherine_Lyall-Watson, 30 June 2009 - 2:34pm
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I’m musing on the worth of showings or rehearsed readings of developing work.

I think they’re valuable for scripts that are at least at a finished first draft stage. But for scripts that are still being developed, is feedback really helpful?

I’m debating this because I’ve spent the last three weeks working on a new play at FreeRange – the Metro Arts creative development festival. It’s been a fabulous process and I’ve gone from a 20-page script at the start of the workshop to 66 pages and going strong at the end. But I haven’t finished a first draft. I’m nowhere near finishing a first draft. Although I was a lot closer to finishing before I had a closed reading of the developing play.

On reflection, I think I agreed to a reading for two reasons;

  1. Because I thought it was expected of me and I needed to show I’d done something in the time I’d had.
  2. Because I was so in love with what I was writing that I thought everyone else would love it, too.

Point one is common to people-pleasing, goody-two-shoes like me.

Point two is a common delusion among writers – it’s why you should never send your play/novel/story to publishers when you first finish it. That’s when you hide it in a drawer for at least a month before looking at it again. Taking some time out hopefully makes you better able to see the flaws in your work so you can fix them.

Now, my closed reading went really well. There was a small audience of dramaturges, directors and writers in the room and their feedback was accurate, useful and enlightening. But I didn’t need it then. I hadn’t finished writing the damn play, and hearing that some characters weren’t needed, while others needed to be re-written didn’t help me in my quest to finish this version.

What I needed was to finish writing the first draft. Now I’m stuck halfway through with too many questions. Do I go back and start it again? Do I change it according to what X said? Or should I listen to Y instead?

The best thing for me to do is to forget all the feedback and just get on and finish the play. Once I have a first draft I can then work out whether the suggestions are what this play needs. But can I get on with it? No. I keep remembering comments from the reading and stumbling. I’ve lost my stride and I need to get it back.

If you’re a writer or have been involved in a feedback process on new work, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Do you find other people’s input helpful?

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Dawn Albinger from Perth says:

It's an interesting question, Katherine. I come from the perspective of a solo performance-maker, and have often shown work that is 'in development'. The last time I did it in a closed formal setting I asked the audience to respond in writing to some questions I proposed rather than feed back to me directly. In the end I did not read the responses because, like you, I needed to finish making the damn thing. What WAS useful about that experience, was the sense of amplification - I heard the work more acutely because I had witenesses. and this was very useful.

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Noel Sheridan from Brisbane says:

Draw first with a lock and key, give the key to someone you trust then after a couple of weeks let us all read it and enjoy the fuss and its future. Count me in and get motivated for that next draft with an even clearer objective albeit for bits maybe just the odd timing high and low and my favorite the pause.
in a most recent performance we rehearsed a pause till we couldn't stand it. That was my best part and wished I could have been an audience to see it.
Break a leg K
Cheers

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snarky from oz says:

Hi Katherine,
Apologies for the pseudonym but you know how things are inthis industry!!
I'm a writer and I hate feedback. I hate dramaturds. (deliberate sp) The only person who really knows ur play is u. Don't listen to anyone else and don't change things to suit someoen else.
Like Dawn I like hearing my work and I figure out ways to improve it when i hear it in front of other people. But I don't wnt them to tell me how to write it. If they have ideas they can go and write they're own play. Don't tell me how to write mine!!@

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thewordygecko from The Gap, Brisbane says:

I tend to agree with you, Katherine. I think a work needs to be in at least the first draft stage before getting feedback, otherwise I feel it interferes with your own creative process. You lose confidence in yourself and your ability to make judgements and creative decisions if you get feedback too early. And unless others see the whole thing, your whole train of creative thought, then they won't understand where you're going, and won't be able to make useful or helpful comments.

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Liz from Ipswich says:

Katherine
I guess you need to have very clearly in your mind what kind of feedback you want. If there's no first draft at least, the whole process becomes rather pointless, surely? And I agree with @Dawn, the amplification process is what really helps at whatever stage you're at. Just hearing your words amplified through another's voice is salutary.

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Thanks for the comments received here and on facebook.

Snarky, I couldn't disagree more with you. I love working with a dramaturg and really appreciate the opportunity to talk about my work with someone who gets plays and structure and plot. Dramaturgs are fabulous and as good for a play as an editor is for a book.

I'm taking a little break from this half-written play and am about to start workshopping an older play. I'll be working with a director and dramaturg and actors and can't wait.

It's wonderful to get back into a work with the perspective and distance that time gives you. When I finish this process I'll go back to my new work and I hope there'll be enough distance for me to see the way through. (I'm sure there will.)

Point taken Liz and others - I got too excited and went too soon. I'll know better next time.

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Lindsay Price from Canada says:

Great discussion point!

Feedback is very valuable. Theatre does not exist in isolation, there is always an audience. So if you can include some kind of audience along the way it's just going to be all the more helpful.

Also, when we're so deep in a work it's amazing what gets missed. How a simple question can go unrealized and unanswered. That's what I find an outside eye exceptionally good for.

Feedback can also be very damaging, depending on those doing the feeding back. As we all know, some people want to follow their own agenda rather than help you make your play the best it can be.

Sometimes the best thing for a script is for the author to hear it out loud. Just to know you're headed in the right direction. That's feedback too, it's not always necessary to verbally hear what an audience has to say. Their response to the work during a reading can be quite telling.

In my feedback sessions I never ask for opinions. They're intangible. It's always 'what stuck with you' and 'what questions do you have.' These are both tangible elements that can be dealt with.

It's important for the writer to know that they don't have to answer the questions right then and there. The answer is between the writer and the script. Some questions they never have to answer. Sometimes it's best to write them down and shove them in a drawer for a week. More than once a question I thought was 'stupid' on the night became more than helpful a week later.

Lastly, if there's a moderator in a feedback session then the writer never has to get into any kind of back and forth. That's really important - do not engage in any defensive bickering!

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Thanks for this comment, Lindsay.

I love your two questions for feedback sessions and will use them next time.

It's over a month since I wrote this post and I've been able to forge ahead with the play after a brief hiatus. I think some of the questions or comments I was most discomforted by at the showing, are the ones that are proving most astute.

Funny how resistant we are to good advice!

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