Are we more parochial in Brisbane?

Posted by Katherine_Lyall-Watson, 20 November 2009 - 10:04am
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The lack of comments on some posts and heated discussion on others has been put down by at least one reader as due to Brisbane’s parochialism.

My initial reaction was to feel defensive. I wrote back saying that readers only comment on issues they feel passionately about and that posts that haven’t attracted comments obviously aren’t controversial enough to spark debate.

But something rankled and I got to thinking about the issue.

Parochialism

Parochialism means having narrow views and interests; in other words only being interested in the things that happen in your own parish (in this case, Brisbane). Could there be some truth to the accusation?

For a long time now, Brisbane has seen a regular exodus of its performers and creatives as people realise they can’t get enough work here to make a living from their craft. Each year, more and more of our talented artists make the move to Sydney and Melbourne or, in some cases, overseas.

I have commented in the past on interstate artists being brought to Brisbane and paid living away from home allowances to do jobs that locals could do just as well. (I’m not talking about co-productions here as they are a different case. A co-production will normally have half its personnel from each of the producing cities, giving the artists involved the chance to tour their work and be seen by new audiences.)

I’ve heard people saying that the downside of safe-guarding jobs for locals is that audiences can get tired of seeing the same faces time and time again. There are a few main reasons I disagree with this:

  1. We have a huge pool of talented creatives here and a tiny amount of professional work, so no one’s in danger of being over exposed.
  2. Other cities manage to fund ensembles, where part of the joy of attending a season is knowing that you’ll see the best performers, transforming themselves as they work on different projects.
  3. We have many new artists coming into the industry each year, as well as the many established artists who rarely get a look in at the big companies. Giving a few of them a chance each year would mean there’d always be new people on stage or lighting/composing/designing/directing.

Brisbane gets many international and national productions brought into venues like The Powerhouse and the Judith Wright Centre. These give theatre-goers the chance to see outside faces and styles. Our professional companies are doing more and more co-productions. Is it fair to ask them to try to keep the money and the work local in the remaining shows that aren’t co-productions? (Look at the audience response to seeing 19 local actors on stage in The Crucible as a gauge.)

What do you think? Are we parochial and, if so, is it a bad thing? Should we be encouraging our creatives to stay in Brisbane? If the answer is yes, how do you suggest we do so?

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Sven Swenson from Toowong says:

This is such a complex issue.

I would be all for our bigger companies hiring interstate artists in a perfect world where it would be reciprocal, but alas, it rarely is so.

Yes, there's the long-standing problem of our artists needing to go south to forge a viable career and there has recently been a push by Arts Queensland to identify ways in which the local scene might be made a sounder long-term investment in artists' time and effort... followed by policies that almost guarantee us the need to move anywhere else or give up and take a day-job. There is also a perception elsewhere that if you are a Brisbane-based artist you can't be very good because if you were, you'd have left Brisbane.

I was annoyed at some of the recent comments posted regarding 'The Crucible' which complained that it was a cast of the same old faces and nepotism had prevailed.

The truth is that for artists to live and practise their craft in Queensland means a very tough road indeed. Few of us do it in the pursuit of fame, because if that were our goal, we would certainly move to Sydney or Melbourne.

Only the certifiably insane do it for the money. I cringe when I hear that we do it for the love, because although there is undoubtedly some truth in that opinion, I fear it misses the conviction that what we do is important and suggests artists thrive on all the fun and attention. You have to believe you are making an important contribution to the cultural life of your community to continue in this industry, because all other reasons will more than likely see you disappointed.

If our seasoned professionals cannot rely on being cast among nineteen, we really ought to close up shop and just present buy-ins, because it would mean no one has a chance of practising their craft here as anything but a casual hobby. The Brisbane theatre-going public deserves better than that scenario and so do its artists.

Over the past decade there has been a culture of emerging young artists, seemingly for the purpose of then submerging them. Established artists in Queensland do it tougher than our southern counterparts, increasingly so. It is incredibly difficult, for instance, for a Queensland-based writer to be seen as an Australian writer and to gain a significant national profile without moving South, West or actually, even North. As a Queensland-based playwright I've had my work produced Off-Broadway, but never in Melbourne and only once in Sydney.

All my work, bar one musical, is Queensland-centric. I've lost track of the number of times I've been advised by the wise to get my stories out of Queensland, set them in Sydney, or better still, New York. If I do that, I actually remove the one remaining passionate motivation I have to keep working in the industry: to significantly contribute to the cultural life of my community. Whether I actually manage to achieve that is for others to judge.

I strongly believe we are terribly parochial, but I think it's a strange, almost inverted parochialism - a self-conscious cultural cringe.

I once had a student in a writing-for-performance class at QUT despair at locally written plays needing to name local places and landmarks. Do we cringe at hearing the Brooklyn Bridge referred to in American plays? Do we sink in our seats when a British character mentions the High Street, as they invariably do?

Queensland-based plays will either touch the universal nerve or not. Setting them in King's Cross or Derbyshire won't help. But they can only touch the universal nerve if they are seen. Unfortunately most Queensland-written plays that have been programmed at our major companies over the last five years have not had what it takes to do that, and so parochialism deepens.

Arts Queensland's two most vital criteria for funding independent productions are that it should be toured to the regions, with regional presenting partners secured, and that the primary artist must be attempting something completely different to that which they have ever done before. Great. This can only lead to more inverted parochialism. We haven't the confidence to say "We have a wealth of fantastic artists in Queensland and it's imperative they hone their craft towards mastery." Instead, regional venues are expected to commit to an experiment that is unlikely to be anywhere near as good as the unmolested work of a serious, inspired local artist.

Yes... we're parochial.

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mf from brisbane says:

Don't say you want to join the circus...

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Brilliant comment, Sven. Thank you. You've raised several important issues here.

"a culture of emerging young artists, seemingly for the purpose of then submerging them" - we've all seen this happen. What happens after you 'emerge', where do you go from there? It seems you're only celebrated when you're new and young. As soon as you've achieved a level of recognition, even if you still have youth on your side, you're suddenly not as viable. And if you have wrinkles then heaven help you. You can't possibly be emerging.

"There is also a perception elsewhere that if you are a Brisbane-based artist you can't be very good because if you were, you'd have left Brisbane." I've heard this a few times and there's nothing that makes me angrier.

I hope that you go on producing work that is intensely local and that this trend for supporting established artists only if they're experimenting with new artforms disappears as suddenly as it's arrived. It's one of the things I found most disturbing about the new look Qld Premier's Drama Award. (Yes mf - I think there will be a few people running away to join the circus. Or at least setting up a clown show for their entries.)

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Snarky the Wondergrrl from Purgatory says:

Yes. Parochialism is the one unifying factor in Australian culture. Brisbane the epitome. There is so little theatre here, and it has to be of a certain kind to get made to any kind of professional standard. If it dares to even reach out and touch the universal it is soundly beaten back.

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Sarah from New Farm says:

Kathryn,

I’m not sure I can agree with your three points.

1. We have ‘a huge pool of talented creatives here’. Really? Huge? My observation is that we have a few stand-outs, and some good competent artists who occasionally deliver something special, but that the pool is not very big or very full. I think we’d all like it to be bigger and fuller. The idea that there’s this enormous talent pool that is somehow being ignored, through some kind of conspiracy, strikes me as typical of the amateur. It’s the argument of the third grade cricketer who can’t get a first grade match.

2. ‘Other cities manage to fund ensembles, where part of the joy of attending a season is knowing that you’ll see the best performers, transforming themselves as they work on different projects’. Really? In Australia there’s just one, at STC, funded through a unique set of circumstances. STC audiences got sick of seeing them. My mother is a subscriber and simply stopped going to the ensemble shows for this reason.

3. ‘We have many new artists coming into the industry each year, as well as the many established artists who rarely get a look in at the big companies. Giving a few of them a chance each year would mean there’d always be new people on stage or lighting/composing/designing/directing.’ Training here is terrible, and it’s no wonder the attrition rate is high. Graduation does not give you a right to employment. (see below).

And this: ‘I have commented in the past on interstate artists being brought to Brisbane and paid living away from home allowances to do jobs that locals could do just as well’. By whose measure? Why would a company pay all that extra money for someone if there was someone here who could do just as well? I imagine that sometimes it might be because that person is a ‘star’ and so brings something extra. Fair enough. Every theatre culture does that. But might it not be that the director or whoever needs a particular quality for a certain role or function? Isn’t that allowed anymore? Are you suggesting we shut down the right to artistic assessment and choice and instead cast by a kind of civic committee?

John Baylis recent delivered a report for Arts Queensland called Mapping Queensland Theatre. He spoke with hundreds of Queensland theatre artists and companies over a few months earlier this year. The report is a reflection of what most of those he spoke to were saying. A big theme of the report is that theatre artists here lack connection with what is happening elsewhere and that this contributes to a lack of sustainability. Here are the key title recommendations (what follows is all from the report, which I found on Arts Queensland’s website):

1. INCREASE SUPPORT FOR THE INDEPENDENT THEATRE
A rich mix of independent theatre is the key to any vibrant theatre culture.

2. CONNECTING QUEENSLAND THEATRE ARTISTS WITH THEIR NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PEERS
Quality theatre work depends on collaboration and interchange. More flow of artists, work and ideas between Queensland and elsewhere will both enlarge the frame of reference within which work is made and increase the opportunities for Queensland theatre.

3. SUPPORTING REGIONAL THEATRE PRACTICE
In contrast to most of Australia, Queensland has a strong regional theatre network…Future strategies for regional cultural development should lever off this strength.

4. AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
A strong theatre sector and sound audiences development strategies need to go hand in hand. There is much work to be done in audience research and analysis.

Recommendation 23
Queensland University of Technology considers reviewing its production courses in consultation with the Queensland theatre sector to align with current and future needs.

Recommendation 24
Queensland University of Technology considers reviewing its acting course to ensure it is meeting the needs of the Queensland theatre sector.

"This report finds that theatre activity in Queensland is low compared to other parts of Australia. It further finds that the biggest gap in the Queensland infrastructure is a supportive environment for the maturation of small companies…

"This report argues that filling this gap is a shared responsibility. Funding programs play a part, but all institutions with a stake in the future of Queensland theatre have a role…

"The independent sector too must aspire higher, must open out if it is to increase its own quality, diversity and risk-taking. Isolation is the theme that came through most strongly during the consultation. Artists feel disconnected from what is happening elsewhere. There needs to be a more vigorous curiosity about the rest of the world, a hunger for dialogue, exchange and influence, complemented by the means to satisfy that hunger. Artists within Queensland need to compare themselves with their interstate and international peers and honestly place themselves in the continuum between mediocrity and greatness, and be willing to judge and be judged by the highest standards."
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So (it’s me back again now), to reduce this complex issue to a parochial whinge about how interstate actors are occasionally employed misses the heart of it. Where’s the dialogue, the connections, the curiosity? Where’s the good training that makes companies desperate to snap up the best new graduates? Where are the small rough spaces that help give any city's theatre critical mass and regular activity?

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Kathryn Fray from Red Hill says:

REALLY GREAT STUFF SVEN.

Snarky (if that is your real name... :)

'There is so little theatre here, and it has to be of a certain kind to get made to any kind of professional standard. If it dares to even reach out and touch the universal it is soundly beaten back.'

There is quite a bit of theatre here, its just rarely funded, and that can impact on its promotional capabilities. I just saw a great piece at METRO ARTS tonight - RED SANCTUARY (last night sat night, so get in there!) After it closes, the creator my wish to spin the wheel of development fortune where she will be lucky to get what she really needs to grow the concept on. You know: nurture, develop and grow over time rather than being forced to give birth prematurely.

The 'certain kind' comment is interesting – can you elaborate?

I don't think that theatre that dares to 'reach out' is soundly beaten back here now - even if it was once years ago (dunno, wasn't here). I think that the community is mixing it up with international and new work, as well as great classics, playing around and finding what fits, and we are on the whole supporting the hell out of each other as we do it. I thought it was freakin’ AWESOME to have 19 of our best up on stage in The Crucible, just as I think it has been great to see new work have its first outing at Metro - with all locally grown talent.

A lot of sexy, diverse, interesting and global looking stuff is happening down here on the streets. You should all come and have a look. Metro Arts was very quite tonight. Shame. The play running at the moment I feel is a true example of why their Independents program works. It is experimental, but with a solid (in this case TEXT foundation), it plays with form and media, and has a cast of interesting young actors, and a local AND global theme. It’s not polished, but then why the hell should it be? Our major theatrical institutions are not the be all and end all of our industry here - they are an integral part of a big morphing movement, driven by people who like to look outwards as well as in. I think that Sven makes the point well - it is what happens AFTER the first dance; the criteria one must meet to develop work, and the expectations placed up it that may have seen 'parochial' perceived work be pushed out in recent times. A missed placed addiction to 'telling our stories', without really looking around us. I am going to embark next year on an ‘our story’ (a long project, so don’t rush me!), but after much global research.

The times are transforming: it is OUR industry and we ARE it. Us young and emerging artists (I am neither, but OK) are doing our thing, working with the ‘seasoned’ (?!) folk. It is a partnership. This has been a big bold year – some hits, some misses, but at least we went for it. I would like to have a collective agreement to quit the ‘tall poppy’ and ‘disempowering’ vernacular and perhaps have a blog chat called “The end of the parochial tag: How Brisbane is the bold new artistic front”. It may not occur to you that way yet, but speak it and it will come.

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Sarah from New Farm says:

Nice post Kathyrn Fray. Let's please drop all the 'disempowering' vernacular and parochial whingeing about who got what role, and look up and out and celebrate a little more what IS here and working and where the exciting growth areas are.

Sven Swensen does some really interesting work. It happens to be very 'local', but there's nothing wrong with that. It's his language and his dramatic home and it also happens to be quite universal. His work is a very welcome part of the diverse world of theatre here. There should be room for it, along with room for all sorts of other theatrical expressions, room for the mature and the emerging, room for visiting artists and companies, room for serious commentary, room for more.

As Kathryn Fray says, we can have that room is we speak it. If we shut down rooms in the mansion, or try to lock people out, then we're going backwards.

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Sven Swenson from Toowong says:

I hope there is nothing wrong with writing with a local voice and from a local setting. It's what Tennessee Williams did, what Martin McDonagh does. My point was that our cringe shows when we believe it's not as valid to do that from a Brisbane perspective. That attitude IS out there but, thank God, there is a growing confidence in our local voice as well. There's a lot to praise and a lot to whinge about and so long as we keep that in balance and keep expressing our opinions gourageously, both ends of the scale might improve as a result of healthy, honest and passionate debate.

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Snippy from Brisneyland says:

I think this all springs from the lack of quality on the mainstage, I'm sorry, it's true.

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Rod Ainsworth from Bundaberg, Queensland says:

Hi Kathryn

Wow - this got a great response. I'll respond from a regional point of view. I practice in a place where there are very few professional artists and am in the middle of creating a work with artists from Bundaberg, Cairns, Darwin, Northern NSW and Brisbane. Where I live, we can't afford to be parochial about where we work or who we work with. As long as we're working with the best people for the job at hand and who will serve the play most effectively.

We live in a huge country with such a small population. I don't think any of us can afford to be parochial, no matter where we live. We work in a tiny industry and shouldn't build walls to create even smaller boxes.

I certainly can't comment on whether the Brisbane scene is parochial, but if it is, it can't afford to be!

Thanks for your blog. Always a great read.

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Snarky the Wondergrrl from purgatory says:

LOL. Saying that STC is the only ensemble is just soooo ignorant it’s difficult to believe that people have that little basic knowledge of the Australian performing arts sector. But someone did say it didn’t they, so that level of complete ignorance must, in fact, exist then, mustn’t it? Scary. It’s much worse than even I thought.

Also, quote from a report and then don't link to it so that you can remain the one with the smarty pants on....except quoting reports doesn't make you less of a complete ignoramus.

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anon e. mouse from brisbane says:

parochial (adj) - limited or provincial in outlook; concerned with only local affairs.

I was at a seminar recently and a Sydney theatre producer told me he was amazed at how "outward looking" Brisbane's theatre scene was. This comment was followed by a shake of the head at what a shame it is that Sydney's scene is so "inwards looking".

Brisbane takes more shows from down south than down south takes Brisbane shows. How can we possibly be "more parochial"?

We should not confuse something as specific as "parochial" with concepts such as quality. Nor should it be held up against any city's need to tell its own stories.

Balance is required. Or we neither create nor learn.

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Thanks for all the great comments.

Sarah from New Farm, I'm sorry you think this post was a parochial whinge - it wasn't intended that way. I wanted to stir debate about whether or not we as an industry are parochial and look at whether there might be times where that's useful to us.

I see this blog as a forum for people who are interested in theatre to have a chance to talk and be passionate about it and I'm really glad when that happens.

I'm grateful for your informed comments but would like to argue a point with you...

You say that we don't have a huge pool of talented creatives here. That this is a typical comment from the amateur and smacks of third-grade cricketers who can't get a first-grade match.

I wonder if we've seen the same independent productions... Almost every show I go to has at least one person on stage or working in the creative team whose work is astonishing. Someone who I look at and think 'why on earth haven't I seen you on our mainstages before?'. It wouldn't be an issue if most of these people went on to get a mainstage gig in the next year or two, but they generally don't. And that's why we see the attrition rate we do.

Brisbane has far more talented people than we currently have the opportunity to see at our main professional companies and losing them is a loss for the whole industry.

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Max from St Lucia says:

Katherine. This goes for all industries! Sure, the arts in particular, but anyone entering a creative field, be it a thespian or a novelist must have some idea of the challenges that lie ahead. Why can't your lot just be grateful with their lot in life...?

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Sarah from New Farm says:

Hi Snarky,

STC has the only full-time, professional company of actors in Australia. Maybe you're thinking of "ensemble" is a different sense. Sorry for the confusion.

Here's the link to Mapping Queensland Theatre.
http://www.arts.qld.gov.au/projects/tmp.html

Sarah

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Dash from Newmarket says:

Interesting discussion Katherine!

Firstly, I just need to say to Max, it's a lovely idea to just be grateful with our lot in life but unfortunately, we need to eat. And if we are unable to fund that in the city that we live in and care about, then is it possible that some things need to change?

I know this is a heated issue, but I think people need to take into consideration a true sense of place. Sure, things are happening in Sydney and Melbourne and New York that are not happening here. But we are not Sydney, or Melbourne or New York - we are Brisbane, and it is not a bad thing to be allowed to create our own sense of cultural identity. Brisbane is a growing, evolving, exciting place to live right now, and I'd like to suggest, when given the opportunity, that our culture is starting to follow suit. I'm not saying we refuse entry to outside artists! I'm just saying that we don't need to be constantly measuring ourselves against these places. We are allowed to be Brisbane and strive for excellence here.

I must admit, the comments of Sarah from New Farm got my blood boiling. To her comment about the creative pool using the excuse of a Third Grade Cricketer, I'd say, it's also the excuse of a First-Grade Cricketer who can't even get a Third-Grade match for lack of cricket matches. (How did we get onto cricket!)

Also, as rude as this sounds, your Sydney-based mother's opinion is not a true representation of what needs to happen in the arts scene in Brisbane. I'm not saying that an ensemble is the answer, I just think that resorting to 'He said, she said" is not the best way forward.

I think one thing has been lacking from these discussions. Heart. An objective sense of pride. When you stand back and look at how far Brisbane has come in the last 15 years it's extraordinary! we live in the second fastest growing city in the world. And with that comes a rare sense of momentum. This city is alive with spirit, with drive, with creativity and, yes, with talent that stacks up anywhere. The opportunity is there. We need to embrace it, improve it, celebrate it and not shy away from the label Brisbane-based. Because until we do - nobody else will.

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snarky the wonder grrrl from purgatory says:

"it is not a bad thing to be allowed to create our own sense of cultural identity...."

Yes. Except we don't. We let government do it for us. That's why we needed a theatre report. Because we can't do it ourselves, 30 years ago there was more professional theatre in Brisbane than there is now, we've managed to kill it.

"only full-time, professional company of actors"...Yes. But loads and loads of fully professional theatre ensembles..so it all depends what you call theatre. If your vision of theatre is narrowly constrained by a 19th century model like STC, then that is more proof of the narrow minded parochialism that is the Australian Performing Arts Sector over all.

Admit it. Brisbane is dead artisically, there is no culture here.

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Whoa, Snarky! Brisbane is dead artistically? There is no culture here? You must be looking in the wrong places.

Sarah from New Farm was right when she said we need more rough spaces. Kathryn Fray and Dash are right to say let's celebrate what we have rather than moaning about what we don't have.

Last night David Berthold said we need to look out instead of in. I think we need to do both. We need to assess what we have here, honestly and critically, and we need to look at models elsewhere we can learn from.

The greatest challenge I see to Brisbane theatre is the killing off of our local culture by not supporting our local artists. If there's no professional work for Brisbane's theatre makers then they will leave - either for other cities or for other professions.

We have the skill, we have the talent, we have our first-grade cricket teams right here. What we don't have is the spaces and stages to use them professionally. There's only so long you can pay money to create theatre as an independent. At some point you burn out without support.

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Max from St Lucia says:

Thank goodness for that! After all these years, we finally have someone on the local theatre scene to keep the bastards honest.

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snarky the wonder grrrl from purgatory says:

"Last night David Berthold said we need to look out instead of in".

Wow. Difficult to believe that with the collected knowledge of a theatrical heritage stretching back infinitely through time and such a diverse and exciting theatrical culture on its' doorstep that La Boite could come up with a program quite this boring.

It's a remarkable achievement, and cause I think for local celebration. Brisbane still manages to sustain the most boring second tier theatre company in the country, now also pitching for boredom awards across the whole of the Asia-Pacific Rim.

La Boites problem: QPAC. As long as QPAC keeps up its consistently excellent boredom ratings of the last few years La Boite doesn't stand a chance.

But hey...Brisbane is just so special and Queenslands' different.

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Richard Jordan from Brisbane says:

Snarky, of course there's value in being critical, but such consistent and unyielding negativity surely helps nobody? Personally I think the new La Boite season is a breath of fresh air, but each to their own I suppose.

I've been following this blog with interest all year, but have never had the courage to write anything before now. I suppose also I figure if you're going to write anything you may as well use your real name. So here goes.

The main reason I'm contributing now is how close-to-home this discussion has been - because I'm currently making plans to leave Brisbane myself in the new year, and I feel as guilty as hell about it. But I also know that I can't stay here and grow as a writer.

If I were more established (or even more confident), I would have no trouble staying, and I think Brisbane can be a productive base for more established artists (such as Sven, Janis, etc). But as someone who still very much considers themselves a "beginner" I have very little to challenge me here. There just isn't the critical mass of other young writers who I can relate to, or forge partnerships with, or bounce ideas off. Of course we have some terrific young writers in this city - Matthew Ryan, Max Mellor and Yvette Walker being only 3 examples - but what I'm talking about isn't so much "quality", but quantity.

When Polly Stenham's "That Face" premiered in London in 2007, she was one of 16 young writers who had had productions or rehearsed readings at the Royal Court that year. 16! And that was at the Court alone. Of course comparing London and Brisbane is like comparing apples and oranges, but the point I'm making is that the sheer scope of that environment protected Polly, and encouraged her to take risks. If the play had been average, it would have soon disappeared into the swarm with the rest of those 16 and we would never have heard of it again. (And we certainly wouldn't be discussing it as representing London theatre generally).

Now my own experience this year was wonderful, and I don't want anyone reading this to think for one moment that I'm complaining about it. I'm not. On its own, the QPDA is one of the best development programs in the country. But it's all Brisbane's got. And as much as "25 Down" was a success (and I think, given the box office and generally positive reviews, that this word can be used), I still only feel like I survived the experience by the skin of my teeth. Pressure and expectations can be incredibly valuable, but they can also be potentially destructive. This time I made it out alive, but if I hadn't, would that have been OK? Or would I be hung, drawn and quartered, and held up as an example of how supposedly "dreadful" the Brisbane theatre scene is?

Of course there are many other, non-theatre related reasons why I am leaving Brisbane (which, incidentally, is a city I love very much). But I do have my frustrations with it, like anyone, and the one thing that's missing for me here right now is the protection of the "swarm".

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mf from brisbane says:

I wonder how many there are like Craig Ilott that have made the move after graduating and hit the big time.

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Mat Quintana from Brisbane, QLD says:

Another great post, Ms. Lyall-Watson - and terrific responses! Kudos to those with the guts to stick their necks (i.e. names) out and state their views.

Since Dash has opened the floodgate on sporting metaphors, let's look at football.

Arsenal. Play nice football. Have a great youth academy. Don't field a single 'English' (Ramsey is Welsh) product. Haven't won much lately.

Barcelona. Play very, very nice football. Have a world class youth academy. Field local talent in almost every position. Win stuff. And win it well.

It took them 20 years to get there. 20 years of focused investment in local product. Twenty. Years. Of. Investment.

Got it?

Now, let's not hide the fact that plenty of local talent fell by the way-side on the way: Marc Crosas is plying his trade - from the bench, I believe - at Celtic; Oleguer is...where? That's how it goes. And, I should point out, they're still working in their chosen field.

And it's not quite that simple (or local). Barca have a fantastic Brazilian right back. A talismanic Swedish striker up front. A (hand-balling!) Frenchman 'on the wing'. That is, they're still comfortable bringing in foreign talent when needed. But that foreign talent supports the overall philosophy. And it certainly doesn't take opportunities away from the local talent - witness this week's game against Inter Milan.

All in all, a very nice balance. One admired around the world. And all it took was time, vision, and unerring focus.

Perhaps Pep Guardiola should apply for the General Manager's position at La Boite.

...and perhaps I should talk about theatre next time...

Oh, and Sven is absolutely correct: the local (i.e. specific) is the universal. More local work please - in every sense of the phrase.

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Anonymous from Brisbane says:

Hi,

I don't mean to hijack the discussion, but i went to the "gender equity" discussion and it hasn't had another comment for over a month so I came here instead.

Now that QTC and la boite have announced their 2010 seasons, will there be a discussion on the fact that not a single female writer or director will have work in the la boite mainstage season next year and that the only female writers or directors for QTC are buy-ins or co-pros?

Caleb Lewis has just withdrawn from Company B's Philip Parsons award in protest of Company B's concepts of "gender equality". Perhaps it's time to voice the same concerns up here.

And of course, there's the fact that not one single Queensland writer is on a professional Brisbane mainstage in 2010. Yes, the seasons themselves are interesting, but are they really as forward-thinking as they pretend to be? No, we don't need all QLD works, or even half QLD works. But none at all? Anywhere?

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Sarah from New Farm says:

Great riff, Mat. Yes, balance is the thing. I think I'll enjoy La Boite's season. Like beloved Barcelona, it has a talismanic Swedish striker up front and a naughty Frenchman 'on the wing' nicely complementing local talent, though I can't find the Brazilian right back. I particularly like how the Brian Lucas (!) show sits beside the amazing Frantic Assembly (I don't know Stockholm, but saw their Heavenly a while back and was blown away). I reckon that'll be two very cool games, with both teams led by director/choreographers. It'll be a fascinating movement-dance-text conversation. I give it to Brian Lucas 1-0. He's a god. A good example, as you rightly say, of "foreign talent supporting the overall philosophy".

Like you I wish there was more stuff in the city. Local stuff, new stuff, whatever. Queensland has 20% of the Australian population but produces only about 5% of the theatre. I suppose there are many reasons for this. Audience figures reflect the imbalance: the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics figures show that 15% of Queenslanders attended a theatre performance in 2005-06, the lowest rate in Australia except for the Northern Territory.

Why don't they go? It's not for want of new works or local product - of the 110 theatre works produced in Queensland last year, 77 were new works (they had never been produced before anywhere) and 70 were Queensland works (they were written or devised by locally based artists) - so 64% of the theatre in Queensland last year was works written or devised by locally based artists. That's amazingly high. Most other cities have a big bias towards productions of extant texts. (Sources: Mapping Queensland Theatre, May 2009 and ABS. Sorry. I've gone Sarah Statty. Shoot me).

Another way to put that is that while we have proportionately high 'local' product, we have proportionately low theatre activity overall. Is that to do with a dire lack of rough spaces in which all kinds of creative artists do all kinds of interesting things and out of which spring formed groups that (hopefully) grow into some kind of sustained practice? Am I an idealist?  

Great to see the Bits Festival having a go (http://bitsfestival.com). Might be fun. Go support it.

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Sean Mee from The Gap says:

Well said, Mat.

But it begs the question... 'Time, vision and unerring focus.' By whom? The Government? dear God, no. Political agendas that must produce 'outcomes' within the electoral cycle...? Artists? Hmm... Do artists (these days) see themselves as part of a larger idea...? Perhaps the media can play a part... OK, you're can all stop laughing... What about the audience...? Well, they don't know what they really want, do they? The theatre companies and venues... they are instruments of Government policy... oops, back at the beginning.

So... I ask:

Is there a creative idea or way of doing that identifies this theatre culture? Is there something distinctive about the artists and their work here... something that has built up over time and through the generations (i.e. the result of 20 years of the application of time, vision and unerring focus) or that is happening right now under our noses that identifies as a 'unique' response or process? Has 'this place' created anything that is and of itself and, importantly, somehow different to the theatre that is made elsewhere?

At the moment, the key identifiers (if you take Baylis and other views) are 'mediocre', 'conventional', 'introspective', 'self-protective' and, depressingly, are used regularly to describe Brisbane theatre. The people who use these descriptors do so because they are self-interested. They want change, for the theatre and its artists to be like elsewhere, to be 'exciting' on their terms, and that's fair enough (but only if you subscribe to the terms of reference of those other places). We should not delude ourselves and deny that (within those narrow external terms of reference) these descriptors can be fairly applied.

These deficit descriptors have currency because there's no counter-argument that specifically points out qualities... So do we have any of those? Is there anything we are doing or have done; some grand idea, some sparkling example, that represents a impressive expression of this theatre culture?

And for those tempted to be supercilious, you can get your tedious voice heard on the Courier Mail blog...

Sean

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ermerged from Brisbane says:

Following the discussion thread (above) is curious. Of course Brisbane is parochial (is is New York or London) but parochial is not in itself (in the sense of local, specific, detailed) a pejorative. Solid writing, decent direction, competent acting all require a firm location in a place and culture.

This discussion, however, elides quickly into one of quality. Is Brisbane's theatre great? No. It isn't. But it has genuine seams of quality, artists of great integrity, people of vision and tons of passion. There is plenty that is right and also plenty that could be much better. The threads above all seem to sit on one or other side of a binary pair when in fact the two sides are closely connected and sometimes are even the same.

Sean asks a great question "Is there anything we are doing or have done; some grand idea, some sparkling example, that represents a impressive expression of this theatre culture?". Seen from an international perspective, Brisbane has a rich independent scene, a proud tradition of indigenous work, a strong physical theatre culture, powerful playwrights and (until David's launch last week) a pretty boring and conservative set of cultural institutions. La Boite's new season is vigorous and exciting. It adds to advances in programming at the Powerhouse and the Judith Wright Centre, It augments the fine development work being done at Metro. All this is good.

What isn't is the small-minded, the provincial, the ratio of those called to those chosen, the lack of opportunities for the talented to develop and the lack of rigorous critical discourse to encourage those whose talents are less formed to develop (or exit the game). The staidness of our key cultural institutions is mind-numbing, bordering on criminal. The purposelessness of our state funding agency writing policies where vision is called for is pathetic.

By all mean lets celebrate what we have but lets also be fiercely, dispassionately critical of where we are - not to cultivate that stain of cultural insecurity but simply to get better.

For non of us, at any stage of our careers, at any level of our industry, can't be better.

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David Berthold says:

The subject of gender equity has been on many minds. How could it not be?

It’s not just a Brisbane problem of course. It’s recently been the subject of a lot of debate nationally. This Sunday sees the annual Philip Parsons Memorial Lecture, usually delivered by one person, given over to a panel discussion Where are the Women? Is there a lack of women in key creative roles in theatre? The panellists are Rachel Healy, Alison Croggon, Shannon Murphy, Marion Potts and Gil Appleton, moderated by Monica Attard.

Even that has sparked controversy. The Philip Parsons Young Playwrights Award is usually made directly after the lecture. Its prize is a Company B commission, worth $10,000. One of this year’s shortlist, Caleb Lewis, has withdrawn his entry. While speaking of his concerns about gender equity, he says this lecture/award afternoon is the wrong context for a forum on this topic: “I feel that recent events have now overshadowed the award, politicising the announcement of a winner to such a degree that I no longer have faith in the panel’s ability to award the prize without bias”.

And it’s not just an Australian problem. Take a look at the National Theatre's current season. It has 30 writers and directors involved. Only five are women. The upcoming January-March season has a total of 27 writers and directors, and again only five women. Or take a look at what’s on Broadway this week. Of the 80 directors and writers only 15 are women. And this has been described by the New York Times as a “banner year for female directors” in New York. In 2002, a report on the status of women in the American theatre was released. It came from the New York State Council on the Arts Theatre Program. It found that just 17% of the plays produced in the USA were written by women. In 2008, the Emily Glassberg Sands thesis Opening the Curtain on Playwright Gender sparkled a lot of debate. Her figures are much the same: women wrote just 18% of the plays in production at non-profit subscription theatres in the USA.

And it’s not just a theatre problem. We all remember the outcry when Triple J’s “Hottest 100 of All Time” was announced in July. Over 500,000 votes, but not a single female artist chosen. The longlist for Best Foreign Film at the Academy Awards was announced recently. It’s some kind of snapshot of film worldwide. 65 films and only seven were directed by women. A few weeks ago, the trade publication Publishers Weekly published its PW Top 10, a ranking of the ‘best’ fiction and non-fiction published in 2009. There are no female writers on the list, despite the fact that books written by women are a regular feature of best-selling lists. It caused an outcry in literary circles. And I was listening to ABC Radio the other morning - only 8.3% of board members in Australia are women and nearly a quarter of the Top 100 companies have no women directors at all.

How do we unravel what’s going on; or rather, what’s been going on for a long time?

Margi Brown Ash offered some thoughts on this blog a while ago. She asked questions in her attempt to sort through the problem: “Is it because as women we are conditioned/encouraged to be more collaborative? Is it a possibility that we are less inclined to embrace the role of director? I would be interested in learning about creative works that do not mention the word director...what is the gender equation there I wonder. I am also wondering if the gender difference shows how the present set up could be seen as traditional, and women are needing a less traditional landscape on which to create? A flexible one that allows her many roles to sit comfortably together...the role of mother and the role of artist; the role of mentor; of carer...rather than wanting to change the figures perhaps we change the system...there's lots of opportunities...so how do we get these multiple opportunities to be fee paying...I think that's the question”.

I think that’s really interesting. How do we build a theatre culture that includes the work Margi’s talking about in a way that makes it economically sustainable for these artists? Of course many theatre artists who are women wish to work in the large companies and are happy to be part of those power structures. But many others wish for quite different, much more flexible structures, which we struggle to create.

I was also interested in this from Alison Croggon on her blog theatre notes: “It's something that post-colonial thinkers as well as feminists note: the internalisation of power relationships and representations by those at the pointy end of them, which itself becomes an entrenched part of the problem. Is it really helpful, for instance, to have equal numbers of women playwrights if the playwrights who are chosen to "represent" women - as inevitably in such circumstances they are - only perpetuate the power relationships that ensure women stay second class? Etc.”

“However, if you pursue simple number crunching without a clear idea of what that means and what this sexism actually entails, both in women and in men, you'll achieve very little aside from creating careers for some few favoured women, which then will be presented as a victory for all women. You will hit some very familiar problems.”

The numbers should be much better, at La Boite and everywhere else. There’s no doubt about that. But Alison’s point is that equity in those terms will not guarantee a fundamental shift in our deepest perceptions of women and their relationship to power and aesthetics. And that’s the greater, and deeper, challenge. We’re all familiar with the old promise that supporting the careers of a few selected women will be good for all women. It’s just not true. Years of institutional support of the careers of Gale Edwards, Marion Potts and Robyn Nevin, for example, have not created the seismic shift that’s required (though Marion appears to be attempting a genuine aesthetic shift in some of her work at Bell Shakespeare). It’s something, no doubt, to be able to point to women such as these, but their presence hasn’t struck at the centre of the problem.

Is it because most Artistic Directors are men? Maybe, but I don’t think that’s all of it. Our largest theatre company, STC, has been led by a woman for the last ten years (the last three equally by a woman and man), enough time to make a difference, but the numbers there have been no better than anywhere else. This might have something to do with Sands’ finding from an experiment she ran for Opening the Curtain on Playwright Gender. Sands sent out unknown scripts by four prominent female playwrights to artistic directors and literary managers across the USA. They were sent under pseudonyms. Half named a man as the writer (for example, Michael Walker), while half named a woman of similar name (for example, Mary Walker). The finding? Female readers gave lower ratings to their own gender more often than male readers. The men rated scripts by either gender equally.

Now, people had a field day with this unexpected finding and it was often reported incorrectly in the media when the study was announced. It was often sensationalised: women artistic directors don’t like women’s plays! The actual finding was that there was a kind of “prophetic discrimination”: women artistic directors in the USA knew plays by women would face bias and thus predicted they would have a lower value. In other words, female readers took into account the perceived bias against female playwrights and by doing so, one might say, helped perpetuate it.

We all want to believe in our own objectivity, men and women, but we all share conditioning that leads us to often overvalue the work of men and undervalue the work of women. Stories about men, too often, are considered universal, while stories about women, too often, are considered specific.

Would Yasmina Reza’s Art have been produced in almost every theatre around the world if its three protagonists were women? Would that have made it somehow specific rather than universal, and so less commercially viable? We are conditioned to accept that specificity in male writing is universal, but still struggle with specificity in writing by women. Even women, from an early age, though less and less, are trained to make deep connections with male protagonists. In an environment that makes theatre more and more reliant on box office income, theatres can sometimes assume (wrongly) that the recognisable male protagonist is a safe box office choice. (At Griffin Theatre Company, I programmed Debra Oswald several times and saw first hand how her female protagonists found a large and hungry audience). Until we become conscious of the assumptions that underpin all these kinds of choices, and understand them, we can’t really move beyond a ‘more jobs for women’ angle. This is important of course, but it’s part of a much bigger and complex picture. One we, I, need to understand.

The forum in Sydney next week asks: Where are the women? Well, they are in general manager/producer positions all over the country. It’s the same in Brisbane: Nicole Lauder, Libby Anstis, Louisa Robertson, Valmay Hill, Judith Anderson, Ruth Hodgman, Sarah Neal, Fiona McDonald, Bella Shanley, Collette Brennan, Liz Burcham and who have I forgotten? Why are these jobs held almost entirely by women? Is it because these roles require an exceptional talent for facilitation, a quality some believe to be best represented in women? I don’t know.

It was frustrating, and many other things too of course, putting together La Boite’s 2010 season. I was always very conscious that only one play was written by a woman and that only one play was directed by a woman. I knew that people would ask the appropriate questions. I struggled for a solution, though maybe not hard enough. The season, like the seasons of artistic directors everywhere, is full of compromise. I could tell you that I wanted a Sarah Ruhl play (but I couldn’t cast it properly, unless I brought in an actor from Sydney, so…). I could tell you that I very much wanted a Marion Potts-directed production (but it was too expensive, yes even more expensive than the Hamlet). I could tell you that I spoke with several local woman writers (but the plays either weren’t ready for 2010, or weren’t suited to the big La Boite space). Six or seven other projects didn’t make the finish line for all sorts of reasons – money, availability, wrong scale etc. etc. etc. The season turned out as it did: my first stab at something. I know it’s not perfect, and the gender imbalance is a big part of its imperfection, but I hope things will improve in coming years in this area and others.

The La Boite Indie season has work directed by Kat Henry, work written (is that the word?) by Rachel Corrie, and work produced by Bella Shanley and Kathryn Fray. But it’s still women in the minority. There was another work written by a woman, and directed by a woman, that I really wanted, but we were beaten to it by Metro Arts. The season was curated by a five-person panel that was (deliberately) made up of a majority of women. Part of the function of La Boite Indie is to help grow seeds, so it will be great, for example, to see Kat’s work at such close range, and to see how Rachel Corrie’s voice plays. These things will feed La Boite. Some projects announced in the new year will also, I hope, address some of the imbalance.

The project for La Boite at this time is to grow its capacity so that we can achieve many better things in the future. Part of that is connecting it with the independent sector and with tertiary student theatre nationwide through the four-day FAST, the Festival of Australian Student Theatre. La Boite Indie and FAST, I hope, will throw up all kinds of programming and aesthetic challenges to our thinking, gender and otherwise. Part of it is trying to breakdown the (male) silos of writer, director, designer so that those roles become more fluid. It’s one of the many reasons that Bryony Lavery’s Stockholm is there, for example - her text is a model of collaborative precision. Part of it is consciously building on something that Brisbane does very well: physical theatre. It’s why both Stockholm and the Brian Lucas-directed The Chairs are there. Anyway.

The bigger project, the world-historical project that is more than theatre or numbers or who got what job, is to enable the return of the feminine into our culture. We see it happening all around us: in our increasing sense of oneness with our planet, in the growing embrace of the human community in the face of the totalising effects of globalisation, in the widespread recognition of the value of partnership and pluralism, in our developing desire to reconnect with the body, emotions, intuition and imagination, in our increasing appreciation and inclusion of indigenous cultures, and so on and so on. The feminine principle has long been suppressed, we know this, but it’s also clear that the trajectory of the Western mind is towards a great reunion. It is the evolutionary imperative of the masculine. For this to happen, for us to recover our wholeness, there must be, among many other things, a willingness of the male to open himself to things that might shatter all that felt safe. That this project is overwhelming and scary should not deter us. In all areas, and especially in the arts, we must strive to give breath to this essential reconciliation.

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Mavis Johnson from Annerley says:

What a lovely young man and what a coup for La boite!

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snarky the wonder grrrl from purgatory says:

la boite..talks nice about grrls but actually does sweet f.a. try this for size...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/company-goes-in-female-direction/story-e6frg6nf-1225805141873

but hey, there just aren’t enough good grrrls in brisbane to get a gig..and geee...we wouldn't want to get accused of positive discrimination or anything..i mean that would be soooo 80s...and we are just sooooo Brisbane..sooo special and so smart.

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